Working Her Out - Podcast
Working Her Out –
the podcast about complex family dynamics
We’re going there! No whispers, no eye rolls, no discomfort. Working Her Out dives into one of the most powerful and complex family dynamics, mothers and daughters-in-law. Hosted by Abi Cook-Singh, this podcast transforms unspoken tension into understanding, elevating relationships to strengthen individuals, families, and businesses. Drawing on counselling experience, award-winning research, and leadership across the community services sector, Abi celebrates the real women shaping our families, our work, and ourselves, with honesty, humour, and heart.
Episode 4
Thank you, Burnout – hello Hayley
Thank You, Burnout
Hayley Hughes is an Australian author and working mother who writes to heal.
In 2024, burnout compelled Hayley to leave her successful senior management career to pursue a more fulfilling life. These experiences led to Thank You, Burnout, a powerful memoir about self-discovery and transformation.
Coming soon….
Episode 3
Alongside Him – The Transition
Three men. Three different relationship stages. One conversation we don't often have.
Married, engaged and single, three men, three perspectives, and an honest conversation about the women who shape their lives.
Join Abi on Working Her Out as she explores the unique dynamic between the woman who brings you into the world and the woman you choose to share your world with.
Through candid reflections, humour and heartfelt insights, these men share their thoughts on love, loyalty, expectations and the sometimes complicated space between mothers and partners.
What changes when another woman becomes central to a son’s life? How do love, relationships and loyalties evolve? And where can curiosity and understanding help everyone find their place?
Because it’s not about choosing between two women you love. It’s about understanding the place each holds in your life.
Real men. Real perspectives. Conversations worth having.
Episode 2
A mother without children
A woman who became a surrogate mother for a couple longing for a child.
On this episode of Working Her Out, we meet Sarah Pastro, a woman who became a surrogate mother for a couple longing for a child. Sarah shares the vulnerable, courageous, and deeply human journey behind the title.
A raw, honest glimpse into the woman behind the role and an absolute must-listen.

Episode 1
Before the ring!
Navigating Mother and Daughter in Law Dynamics
Join me, Abi Cook-Singh, with my daughter Belle Spehr on Before the Ring!
We explore mothers and daughters-in-law dynamics, focusing on building connection, positivity, and understanding before tensions arise.
Honest, fun, and insightful, practical tips and real talk to strengthen relationships, celebrate family, and make the journey to marriage smoother.


